I was an outer org trainee in 96 in Flag. It very well might have been different before, but when I was there, there was no problem to phone to your relatives. I even did call my friend from inside the coachman - if I paid for it of course. The training was very tough, but also very good. I am not with the management at all, but they have some very good staff over there in Flag!

Alexandra

> Whew! That's what I was thinking, but did want someone who had been
> there to say so.
>
> Glad you are here to voice what was going on "inside".
>
> Chloe
>
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:53:41 -0800 Class XII C/S
> <Class_XII@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >In Today's Scn RTC World which uses George Orwell's books as a
> >blueprint for the way they manage their organization, there are
> >always two reasons for
> >doing "strange things" One is the avowed reason, and since people
> >are
> >indoctrinated that any disagreement comes from either MUs or Overts,
>
> > it is
> >the officially accepted one (and also the PR or one used in any
> >legal
> >defense).
> >
> >There is of course the true reason, which tend to be insidious,
> >selfish and manipulative.
> >
> >The avowed reason is that Cellulars can be "distractive" or
> >disruptive
> >>
> >(students can forget to turn them off, they can Violate Students
> >guide to acceptable behaviour by becoming too involved in "other fish
> >to fry". All
> >those are silly of course, as requiring people to check Cell phones
> >is only
> >sometimes done with children (minors) at School but only appriately
> >"when
> >someone checks in PRISON".
> >
> >The insidious reason is that not only can cell phones be used to
> >verbally transmit Materials over the air - especially upper level
> >materials during a
> >bathroom break, but one can report the latest flap, the latest goof
> >or be
> >involved with people who might "disagree" with the latest set of
> >fanatical
> >conditions. But even more importantly, if the student needs to be
> >detained
> >or isolated for any fancied reason, he will not be able to call
> >911 or
> >anyone for help.
> >
> >A similar thing can be said about no TV or not reading newspapers or
> >even socializing with the public when you are in the SO. It is
> >officially either
> >restimulative (TV, newspapers) or inappropriate. The truth is that
> >it was
> >discovered that SO staff who kept in touch with the outside world
> >would
> >inevitably leave as they realized that their "Artificial Paradise"
> >was an
> >illusion and based on lies.
> >
> >Pierre
> >
> >References:
> >
> >"1984" by George Orwell
> >"The Animal Farm" by George Orwell.
> >
> >
> >>From: "Chloe " <inquisitor@hush.com>
> >>
> >>I recall a friend of mine having a 2d upset over outer-org training.
> >>
> >>When her 2d announced he was going on staff, they sat together
> >and planned
> >>how it could be done(financially). They came up with a sane plan
> >and
> >>a time-frame to do it in.
> >>
> >>A few days later he called her from the org and said "the org can't
> >wait,
> >>  I'm starting staff now". He then came home, packed a bag, and
> >took off
> >>for Flag, promising to call daily.
> >>
> >>Since they hadn't implemented their financial program, this left
> >her
> >>suddenly in a position of having to figure out how to keep the
> >family
> >>afloat. It also left her inadequate time to properly comm with
> >her husband
> >>about anything.
> >>
> >>Once at Flag, his promise to call daily disappearred. He'd been
> >required
> >>to check his cell phone when he checked in. There was one pay phone
> >for
> >>hundreds of trainees, and a 15 minute window each day (10:45 pm-
> >11:00
> >>pm in which trainees were allowed to use it.
> >>
> >>So she was required to struggle to hold things together for both
> >of them
> >>with little or no comm for about 6 months.
> >>
> >>Can someone tell me what the purpose is to remove cell phones from
> >incoming
> >>trainees?
> >>
> >>Chloe