--- In fzaoelma@yahoogroups.com, xyandra2@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 11/9/2003 9:02:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> founder@i... writes:
>   Sure is a big generality.  Exactly how many have I pissed off?
> You for sure when I kicked you off icause.

> ralph, pat, me, howard, ray and rey, how is that - 5 for starters.

     Ralph was never on. Pat is still on, You got kicked off, dont
know who howard is, Rey Robles was never on, Ray K is still on.

         So, that still leaves 1, YOU, and somebody named howard,
possibly 2.
        Even if there were 5 people mad at me, that is less than 1
percent of the com lines.



  i can
> send you an extensive list of the people if you really want to
know, believe me,
> not a problem.

        Dont bother.  I know exactly who I kick off and why. I am
not interested in your think at all.


 i already wrote you a personal e-mail about what i thought of
> you, maybe you would like a few more with the same information.

      Dont bother.  I do not need more generalities and mindless
entheta.

  what i wrote
> you was akin to a declare if you recall.


     You have no power over me at all.  And you only detract from
any sort of beingness you might have by attacking me.  May as well
attack lrh.


 you third partied a good friend to
> me by telling me she was a dog pc and she was the ONLY person
the "great" tommy
> ever red tagged. 


       Jesus christ.  You are still moaning about a mistake that was
sent to the fzaoint list two years ago.  Come to pt.
        And yes, that is the only red tag I ever had.


no self-respecting auditor in his right mind would ever say
> that.  if you want i will give details.  i also know that you
third partied
> another person's own ex-mother-in-law to them and he now has a
hard time
> confronting her. and he really likes her and thinks she is
awesome.  i think you and
> i both know who we are talking about.

     No idea, so but lets give you two people.  Two out of thousands
of success stories is not exactly anything I would be concerned
about.



 hmm.  very theta tommy, very standard
> indeed.  that is only standard for a backstabbing 1.1 tone level,
in case you
> missed that when you were studying the tone scale.

     Looks to me like your picture is under the def of 1.1. Your
entire com is at that level, I am only amazed that people can not
see through your glee.

>

>     It is a good question.  Production, not long ranting entheta
> posts is what any auditor should be judged by.
>
> this is a good statement to hide behind.  this means that bush is
ok and
> doing a great job as well and anyone who disagrees with him and
the killing of
> innocent people are ranting entheta because they disagree with
him.  of course,

      You have a tremendous amount of A=A=A.  Your logic does not
make any sense at all.


> how do you know WHAT my production is.  Just because i am not a
hot bag of
> bragging wind, does not mean a thing.  you judge things you do not
even know.

      You quite simply ARE  a hot bag of entheta wind, complete with
generalities and dub ins.  Anyone who can read english should be
able to figure that out.

>
> so here is what i see:
>
> if you re-read the letter, you will see there are no generalities
at all. 
> this time i named some names for you.  it is you who utters
generalities.

  It is rife with generalities.  The names you named for the most
part are simply false.
   
>
> you are stuck in an incident tommy and that shows in this inane
post.  run
> out the church or something.  this is not the SO.  you are still
running the SO.


         No, I am running ICAUSE. If you dont like it, then tough.

> 
>
> also it was not me under DUI charges and then sent to jail at the
age of what
> 65? or 68?  that is a great stat tommy.


        Jesus.  You do not even have a clue of how old I am. If this
is your fact finding, no wonder you cannot find the correct target.


 then blame it on the c of s being
> after you.  what tripe.  you may be able to bullshit a lot of
people but so did
> hitler - another great stat man.  can it tommy, i am immune to the
sea org
> drival about SP's.  you can call me one as long as you like and it
will not
> matter.

         I do not have to call you one.  You are doing a fine job of
that all by yourself.



 i will just get off all the lines as it might just prove to me that
the
> whole of scientology is nothing but a control trip.

    You do not even have any certainty that Scientology works. You
are driven nearly insane by the idea that anyone could get better,
my production infuriates you.

     You do not want anyone to get better, that is pretty obvious.

     That is why you were booted from icause, that is why I am
pointing out the errors in your think here.  I only find it hard to
believe that anyone, no matter how badly trained could find anything
good about you.



 i thought perhaps the
> freezone would be different but you are a dramatizing fool who
just wants to keep
> the horror of those stupid blue uniforms going and the power trip
they gave. 
> just realize you no longer have it on.

      Dont worry.  I have a much much better one on now.  I think it
will piss you off even more than the Sea Org ones did.'

Tom