On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:21:17 -0000 you wrote:
>The
last time I saw Claire was in 92 at the base. She was ptp'd
and
>enturbulted. Then she was making an effort to liquidate materials
she
>had like meters etc. to raise money. I thought she planning
on
>leaving the Sea Org then. Or rather, I got the impression she
wanted
>to leave and was working on that. Also in 92 there was a mission
into
>the base to make some class twelves in a right away style. A group
of
>class eights were selected to be trained through class twelve.
Pierre
>was still at the base then too I believe. He will recall this
better
>than I with more reality but it seems these people went from
class
>eight to class twelve in two weeks. I think there were about ten
of
>them. I was close to one of these people and I remember asking
how
>one could jump so far so fast in a few weeks...from class eight
to
>class twelve. He was rather ambivilant about the training cycle
and
>said "It's just tr's". I was left with the impression that
the
>difference between a class eight and a class twelve was just a
tr's
>course, and that there were tr's practices by these auditors that
the
>rest of us were not privvy to. I was hoping for Pierre at sometime
to
>define this, what is the difference between a class 12 and an 8?
At
>that time during that training cycle in 92 did Pierre get
the
>impression that that training push was a hasty / sloppy
training
>cycle? Wiz
I studied the Class 8 materials at Flag
and have no doubts about being able to handle any case with standard
tech.
After leaving the SO 22 years ago I started to help build up the
FZ.
I had read quite a few of the L's bulletins while at Flag. Security
was sloppy.
Several write ups appeared on the net about L's. Those from
Larry West and any other writings from him are garbage.
I read one write
up that contained the same data that I had read at Flag.
I have stated
that I will hold the position that the buck stops here and act as the last place
to go when all else fails.
Pierre has accepted a similar responsibility
for the Americas.
After studying the write up I realized that the style
of auditing was the key factor in the L's
Someone recently asked me, when
she was here, about the difference.
So I asked a question with Class 4
TRs and then with Class 12 TRs. I think she then got the difference.
KRC
subsumes ARC when it is mastered.
The L's are audited from total KRC. The
TRs involved might seem out of "ARC" to people at lower levels. However,
in auditing L's, one must directly address the Being. The auditing questions are
not just asked in words but they are projected telepathically into the space of
the PC. The auditor must have the ability to see the reads on the meter while
looking straight at the PC.
Thus a Class 12, if not stably exterior, must
be at least exterior enough to maintain that state when asking an auditing
question.
So the answer is that yes, the difference is in the TRs. And
that is the main difference.
There is a wonderful lecture entitled
"Craftsmanship, Fundamentals"
If auditors listen to that and understand
it then they will know that the workability of Scientology is contained in
fundamentals, not esoterics.
The difference is not ~just~ a TRs course.
It is a TRs course. As an OT.
--
Ralph Hilton
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